![]() ![]() So the stories are endless, as are the stories of those people who walk for days and days with badly malnourished children, desperately seeking help. You know, I hear stories of someone's brother having sand stuffed so far down his throat into his esophagus, deliberate attempts just to terrify and torture people. They speak to - if - as a woman said to me, if they couldn't steal it, they burnt it. They speak to the horrendous violations of, you know, what we call grave violations, Sacha, the sexual abuse, the - seeing children killed, seeing rape of sisters or of mothers, this horrible level of kind of human suffering. People - they speak to a couple of things. ![]() And I was in Darfur, where the war continues. I was in Chad, where you've had a lot of refugees come in. PFEIFFER: Despite that emptiness, were you able to talk with some people? And if so, what did they tell you?ĮLDER: Yeah, a lot. And they're still terrified because war is very much still raging in Sudan. So I think that and then just this exhaustion of people that you see, whether it was in Chad, where the refugees have gone, or whether it's those in Darfur who are still terrified because they've had homes looted and homes burned, you know, there is just that look amongst people that they're battered. ![]() This, well, is the largest displacement of children on the planet. Everything has been burnt and looted, and there is no one. And you look, and it's - buildings are pockmarked, and it's clothes and things. You can only hear - underfoot, you hear crunching of glass under your feet. This could be a rural area or a neighborhood, like a middle-class neighborhood, and it's empty. I think probably the strongest is just the eeriness of when you walk around a community. PFEIFFER: Could you describe what you saw, your strongest visual memories of being there?ĮLDER: Yeah. He's just back from a trip to the border of Sudan and Chad, and a warning to listeners that some of what we'll discuss may be difficult to hear. agency that provides humanitarian aid to children. For more, we've called James Elder, a spokesperson for UNICEF, the U.N. It's also left 18 million people facing acute food insecurity. Many of them have fled to neighboring countries. It said the fighting has displaced more than 10 million people. It began about 10 months ago, when the Sudanese military and a powerful paramilitary group began fighting each other for political control. The United Nations warns that the conflict in Sudan has caused one of the world's largest human displacements. ![]()
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